Comments on: Keep those sinners away from our Church!

By: Clayton Bell

Clayton Bell — Thu, 29 May 2008 17:48:10 +0000

Does no one remember that Jesus was called a “friend of sinners?” Does anyone remember the whole Matthew party thing? How about “The Son of Man came eating and drinking?”

(bangs head against desk…repeatedly)

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By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:43 +0000

It’s not really up to the church what businesses can go where. Nor can the government force out a legit business just because a certain group of citizens are morally opposed to a burlesque tavern.

Also, it looks pretty bad for the church when they’re trying to supersede the law and this Coyote Ugly place is following the law properly.

If the church doesn’t want the Coyote Ugly place across the street, they should try giving the Gospel to the owners and patrons of the bar.

By: Brad Ruggles

Brad Ruggles — Wed, 28 May 2008 13:45:26 +0000

So sad. Like the Pharisees in Jesus’ day it seems these “christians” have lost sight of what the gospel is really about.

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By: Fr. Daniel

Fr. Daniel — Wed, 28 May 2008 11:55:25 +0000

I think there are very good reasons to fight the bar/club from being established in the city, regardless of where it is located. However, if the place is there, it sounds like an excellent opportunity for the church to offer ministry and the hope of Jesus Christ.

Maybe the church should consider opening its doors during the same hours that the bar is open. That way, they can minister to those who may be going to the bar for the wrong reasons–or coming out of the place feeling hopeless. Maybe the church could become so effective at ministering to the drunken and hopeless that the bar could end up being a healthy, enjoyable place for drinking, and not a place of lewdness and despair.

By: Dean

Dean — Wed, 28 May 2008 02:18:00 +0000

It probably depends upon the goals of that particular parish, but I’d say I’m glad I’m not the one making the decision.

By: GregQualls

GregQualls — Tue, 27 May 2008 22:25:02 +0000

Kevin I love the idea of churches in bars…it’s my dream to one day do church in a bar.

By: Kevin Mattison

Kevin Mattison — Tue, 27 May 2008 21:58:02 +0000

Seems to me that if you deny the bar, you deny the people in the bar. But the truth of it is, how many churches are really doing anything for those stuck in cycles of alcoholism, adultery, and frankly sin. The church usually has two responses: a) Call them sinners and damn them to hell for their unrepentant ways b) Fully embrace their way of living and never confront their sin.

I guess there’s no easy answer. Maybe it’s letting the bar in, and developing a ‘real’ ministry to those in the bar. Like starting church during off hours @ the bar.

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